Aaron Shafovaloff
Aaron Shafovaloff
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Discussion with Insolent Mormon Apologist
Travis Ryan Anderson is an admin in a Facebook group called "The Cavalry" ( groups/135654108405452/). The group limits participation "to missionaries and those about to serve" (August 7, 2024).
A December 7, 2022 post from the group reads:
"Elders and Sisters, please don't invite or encourage your Mission Presidents to join this Group. We aren't trying to be elusive, but avoid issues with those who might misunderstand. Our goals are to assist with more difficult issues you encounter, mostly when those might effect your own testimony. We are trying to encourage a love and desire for a lifetime of Gospel learning and introduction to how scholarship can affirm, not detract from a T...
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LDS Spectrums and LDS/Evangelical Dialog
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With Scott Adams (LDS) and Aaron Shafovaloff (evangelical)
Mormons Debate Polygamy
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Jacob Isbell and Jacob Hansen debate whether Joseph Smith taught and practiced polygamy. May 25, 2024 See longer video here: ruclips.net/video/ySanapKgbkE/видео.htmlsi=tGU-c5UYyj1KHhpq Slides: docs.google.com/presentation/d/1_ED17gLmbU-_cM8mCQ7Pg9K9eHC7IAKs6RuGvkxaKDA/mobilepresent?slide=id.g2df4d84a499_0_127
Holly and the Ivy, played by Rachael Shafovaloff
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Holly and the Ivy, played by Rachael Shafovaloff
New Book: Responding to the Mormon Missionary Message
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New Book: Responding to the Mormon Missionary Message
"The Touch of the Master's Hand" (recited by Jean Phillips)
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Twas battered and scarred, and the auctioneer thought it scarcely worth his while to waste much time on the old violin, but held it up with a smile; "What am I bidden, good folks," he cried, "Who'll start the bidding for me?" "A dollar, a dollar"; then two!" "Only two? Two dollars, and who'll make it three? Three dollars, once; three dollars twice; going for three.." But no, from the room, far ...
Teaching the Imputation of Christ's Righteousness in Evangelism
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John Kauer March 24, 2023
Evangelism Training - Part 2
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With Aaron Shafovaloff March 24, 2023
Evangelism Training - Part 1
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With Aaron Shafovaloff March 24, 2023
God's Evangelistic Strategy: Preaching and Suffering
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God's Evangelistic Strategy: Preaching and Suffering
What is the gospel?
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What is the gospel?
Silent Night (with Mission Church friends)
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The good life: "Singing and making melody to the Lord with your heart." - Ephesians 5:19
How Evangelism Multiplies Joy and Blesses the Local Church - Aaron Shafovaloff
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How Evangelism Multiplies Joy and Blesses the Local Church - Aaron Shafovaloff
Charles Spurgeon on Open-Air Preaching - Dr. Ed Romine
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Charles Spurgeon on Open-Air Preaching - Dr. Ed Romine
Sharing the Gospel with Brandon (at BYU)
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Sharing the Gospel with Brandon (at BYU)
Three Rules for Street Evangelism (Utah Evangelists)
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Three Rules for Street Evangelism (Utah Evangelists)
Why you should slow down and ask questions
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Why you should slow down and ask questions
Benefits of restating someone else's position
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Benefits of restating someone else's position
Provo evangelism report (August 26, 2022)
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Provo evangelism report (August 26, 2022)
Head Coverings Since The Reformation
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Head Coverings Since The Reformation
Doctrinal Evangelism to Mormons, by Lloyd Larkin
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Doctrinal Evangelism to Mormons, by Lloyd Larkin
Provo evangelism report (July 28, 2022)
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Provo evangelism report (July 28, 2022)
Temple Square Evangelism report (Aug 1, 2022)
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Temple Square Evangelism report (Aug 1, 2022)
Who was John Bunyan?
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Who was John Bunyan?
Sermon: Useful to the Master (2 Timothy 2:20-26)
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Sermon: Useful to the Master (2 Timothy 2:20-26)
Bob Witte witnesses to Mormon Fundamentalists (late 1970's)
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Bob Witte witnesses to Mormon Fundamentalists (late 1970's)
Keep It Simple When Witnessing To Mormons, by Dick Baer
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Keep It Simple When Witnessing To Mormons, by Dick Baer
A Traveling Missionary to Mormons, by Wally Tope (late 1970's)
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A Traveling Missionary to Mormons, by Wally Tope (late 1970's)
Techniques in Apologetics to Mormons, by Wesley Walters (c. 1984)
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Techniques in Apologetics to Mormons, by Wesley Walters (c. 1984)
Come Behold The Wondrous Mystery (Simple Acapella)
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Come Behold The Wondrous Mystery (Simple Acapella)

Комментарии

  • @rosemariebennett7213
    @rosemariebennett7213 День назад

    So you're husband calls you out of the grave, not Jesus ? I'm glad I don't have a husband in the church

  • @laranjoeric
    @laranjoeric День назад

    Hey Michael. How are you doing? I just watched this video. I pray you are doing well in the Lord.

  • @Killthesefears
    @Killthesefears 6 дней назад

    Why don’t you guys start calling us latter-day Saints instead of Mormons? oh wait, it’s because you don’t respect us.

    • @AaronShafovaloff1
      @AaronShafovaloff1 6 дней назад

      Most of the time it’s just easier to use two syllables. It’s not out of disrespect. There are also plenty who still don’t mind being called Mormons. This was culturally acceptable only years ago, and it is still ingrained. The abrupt change is ecclesiastical, not entirely cultural. We talk to Latter-day Saints (I don’t mind using the title in the right context) regularly. It’s actually rare to hear objections over the shorthand "Mormon." Compare the insistence on using false pronouns. It’s not kind to insist that people violate their conscience; we’d rather not dignify a misnomer. We don’t believe you are of the Church. We don't believe you are saints. We don’t believe you are true members of the Church of Jesus Christ, properly speaking. So we have to evaluate whether we’re using a term as a neutral title, or if it functions as a spiritually significant descriptor. When a term begins to function more as the latter, we reach for other designations. Imagine if we insisted that you called us “members of the holy (c)atholic Church of Jesus Christ, the communion of saints, who alone truly have the one Lord, one faith, one baptism, one God and Father of all, one body, and one Spirit,” and then were offended when you opted instead for “evangelical” or “baptist” or “born agains.” Finally, the material we present isn’t exclusively relevant to members of the mainstream LDS Church. It’s relevant to a whole number of sects of Mormonism, or the larger Latter-day Saint movement, some of whom we interact with on a regular basis. If it offends you in the midst of a conversation, we can settle on another brief term. But it’s better that we discuss matters of substance than that we get offended by the innocent use of shorthand. Grace and peace.

    • @cliffhanger20
      @cliffhanger20 День назад

      @@AaronShafovaloff1 Wow! what a superb reply!

  • @Killthesefears
    @Killthesefears 6 дней назад

    You guys just don’t like the fact that he stood up for his beliefs and made you guys look bad in the process.

    • @AaronShafovaloff1
      @AaronShafovaloff1 6 дней назад

      We actually don't mind if when Mormons stand up for their beliefs - we prefer it! It shows a principled love for the truth and a care for the substance of things. It provides a wonderful ground for conversation. In the case of Travis, however, his mode seems to be more of rhetorical steamrolling, which resists an exchange of extended, substantial thoughts, and disallows either party to truly make a case for their beliefs. It honestly sounds like the pro-Travis commenters are more impressed with rhetorical aggression, whereas the Christian commenters are more focused on the fruits of the Spirit and the attempted substance of conversation. Sincerely,

  • @Killthesefears
    @Killthesefears 6 дней назад

    What was this meeting again? Five or six protestants on one latter-day saint?

    • @AaronShafovaloff1
      @AaronShafovaloff1 6 дней назад

      Maybe cool it with the cynicism? There were four LDS apologists (using the term loosely), and probably a dozen Christians scattered around the four corners of the intersection, busy talking to other people or handing out tracts.

    • @Killthesefears
      @Killthesefears 5 дней назад

      @@AaronShafovaloff1​​⁠don’t act for a second that you guys aren’t doing what you’re doing. You go around trying to dissuade people from their beliefs and gaslight them. You claim it’s part of your mission but you guys are doing more harm than good despite what you think. Why don’t you take a note out of our book and do it respectfully. If people are interested, they’ll talk to you if not, move on. The reason Travis engaged you is because he knows exactly what you’re up to. You come across as harmless and friendly but you’re bent on telling people things like “you believe in a false Jesus etc”. Get out of here, man. The audacity. So you can call me cynical, but I’m stating facts like Travis. Facts that you’ll most certainly have a problem with and try to debunk or explain away. Look at you guys. Using us for clicks, money and attention. You can’t help but pick on Latterday Saints and then act like you’re the victim. What a joke, dude.

    • @AaronShafovaloff1
      @AaronShafovaloff1 5 дней назад

      I invite you to come talk to us peacefully. We are overt: We teach the Biblical Jesus of historic, universal Christianity, and of the free grace of the gospel, and call all to repent of belonging to any other religion, including Mormonism. We want you to join Christians and even the angels in directly worshipping Jesus. You can witness for yourself our pattern of engagement, our respect, and our courtesy. God bless!

  • @jeremiahgreen5161
    @jeremiahgreen5161 7 дней назад

    Thanks for posting. Frustrating to watch. While I don’t believe either side, I can understand the “insolent Mormon’s” thinking and argumentative nature from when I was Mormon. It is pretty embarrassing to see how unwilling he is to listen or to have a real discussion. I appreciate Aaron trying to have a respectful discussion and trying to talk through the points.

  • @darrencampbell4296
    @darrencampbell4296 8 дней назад

    I love watching your discussions Aaron. You’re a great example of how to give truth with gentleness and respect. And the content is helpful in thinking through how to discuss topics with Mormon family members. I will be praying for God to show this man His mercy and Grace. Please put out more content like this.

  • @user-si6dm2zn8t
    @user-si6dm2zn8t 9 дней назад

    53:00 I can guarantee that this guy has not studied the Bible. He keeps throwing out open-ended/rhetorical questions that lead to nowhere!

  • @user-si6dm2zn8t
    @user-si6dm2zn8t 9 дней назад

    This LDS guy is not truthful at 27:50. The LDS church most definitely teaches that God and Jesus were both once men who became exhalted. in the last 5 years I have spoken with 3 bishops and 4-5 groups of missionaries. They all teach that God and Jesus were both ordinary men who became exhalted. THAT GOES DIRECTLY AGAINST THE BIBLE, AND IS PROBLEMATIC FOR THE MORMON CHURCH! There is tons of other LDS scripture that teaches this! This guy adds a lot of his personal feelings that goes against what is written in LDS history. Lots of LDS scripter that God had a father, Gods father had a father into infinity! Pure Idiocy!

  • @truthseeker4286
    @truthseeker4286 9 дней назад

    "Insolent...." false, hypocritical and condescending comments from Aaron that claims to be Christian . Truth is sharper than a two edge sword, and it cuts asunder the false precepts of men : which is Aaron in this case. Aaron got emotionally hurt . This may be a rare time that Aaron got his ass kicked with truth and reason and Aaron certainly didn't like it. If Christ were on the Earth today, Erin would try to convert him; as the Pharisees and scribes and Jewish Sanhedrin did.

  • @truthseeker4286
    @truthseeker4286 9 дней назад

    The adoption analogy does not work. Travis is totally correct about the transformative process .

  • @jamesrexsannatracy8318
    @jamesrexsannatracy8318 9 дней назад

    The guy in the hat is a PERFECT example of talking to a Mormon. They attack you for speaking their doctrines, but by no means want to hear the text of the Bible. He’s a real narcissistic sociopath

  • @jamesrexsannatracy8318
    @jamesrexsannatracy8318 9 дней назад

    The guy in the hat is a PERFECT example of talking to a Mormon. They attack you for speaking their doctrines, but by no means want to hear the text of the Bible. He’s a real narcissistic sociopath

  • @Seabeagle10
    @Seabeagle10 10 дней назад

    😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😅

  • @madisonlay8833
    @madisonlay8833 10 дней назад

    I thought it was so sad that his idea of sanctification and forgiveness was so rooted in behavior modification instead in a genuine abiding in Christ or empowering by the Spirit. Also really interesting that talking about your daughters didn't resonate at all considering how much mormons compare heavenly father to an earthly father.

  • @devinhildebrandt2709
    @devinhildebrandt2709 10 дней назад

    Aaron is a moron.

    • @AaronShafovaloff1
      @AaronShafovaloff1 10 дней назад

      "The unfolding of your words gives light; it imparts understanding to the simple." - Psalm 119:130

  • @jessicac6787
    @jessicac6787 10 дней назад

    I have a mormon friend in Utah. She told me that she has a gay married couple in her ward that have callings!

  • @Cry4Tanelorn
    @Cry4Tanelorn 10 дней назад

    I am AMAZED by Aaron's patience here

  • @ChaseRook
    @ChaseRook 12 дней назад

    Yeah this guy definitely does not represent us. Thanks for pointing that out lol

    • @DwellerAtTheCrag
      @DwellerAtTheCrag 11 дней назад

      What if I told you he currently has a massive influence on currently serving Missionaries & RM's, would that be a problem in your eyes?

  • @joanlamb4710
    @joanlamb4710 12 дней назад

    This was really painful to watch. The arrogance of this man was unbelievable! Good for you for keeping your temper! Pride comes before a fall and his fall will be swift and painful. Really sad!

  • @calvaryapologetics
    @calvaryapologetics 12 дней назад

    Mormonism says there are many Gods and that you can become one, they say Jesus and satan are spirit-brothers, they say Jesus did NOT make atonement on the cross alone. They say God the father was once a MAN on another planet who had to EARN His way to become a God. They say you must learn secret handshakes and passwords and wear special underwear in order to live with God the father when you die. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints teaches that all human beings, male and female, are beloved spirit children of heavenly parents, a Heavenly Father and a Heavenly Mother. In no way can mormonism be classed as "Christian"

  • @codewalters
    @codewalters 13 дней назад

    Kwaku is just too young and arrogant to debate

  • @danielcarpenter1489
    @danielcarpenter1489 13 дней назад

    Aaron reads scripture: "You can't do that" Aaron doesn't read scripture: "Where is your scripture?" Way to keep patient and de-escelate throughout this talk Aaron! God's word never returns empty! I have been encouraged and taught through this interaction. God bless you, your family, and your ministry!

    • @BardOfShwa
      @BardOfShwa 11 дней назад

      His repeated use of the question, "What does that mean?" seems to serve to water down the force of the scripture Aaron quoted. When Aaron lays out his understanding of a scripture prior to quoting that scripture, though, it's treated as illegitimate. A mindboggling technique. Well done, Aaron, for striving for a positive interaction here.

  • @michaelkarimian7538
    @michaelkarimian7538 13 дней назад

    I’ve seen several debates with Kwaku and he’s been thrashed it every debate he’s been in. When it comes to his debating skills his greatest talent is unfortunately, giving information and no information at the same time.

  • @philclegg8169
    @philclegg8169 13 дней назад

    59:59 now all human texts are flawed. But God will magically tell you what is right. Isn’t that what Kimball claimed in Miracle of Forgiveness?

  • @philclegg8169
    @philclegg8169 13 дней назад

    53:31 This guy would not say any of this with Mormon leader there. 😂 His disparagement of the Bible whenever convenient is hilarious, considering the origins of the Book of Mormon.

  • @philclegg8169
    @philclegg8169 13 дней назад

    48:58 Logic would tell you that God cannot sin. Sin is when you have a desire or action that is contray to the laws of God. God cannot act contrary to himself

  • @philclegg8169
    @philclegg8169 13 дней назад

    38:20 He knows the Sermon. But wants to provide his “context”. It’s better than Lorenzo’s. 😂

  • @philclegg8169
    @philclegg8169 13 дней назад

    28:55 He’s such a common Mormon. He can argue any point without giving any doctrine. Arguing God had to have the “Miracle of Forgiveness” in the 1950’s to “speak to the people” but now it has been discontinued is rich. 😂

  • @EliasB100
    @EliasB100 13 дней назад

    Pearls before swine indeed

  • @brentheltonj6308
    @brentheltonj6308 13 дней назад

    Gaslighting this dude has zero intellectual dishonesty and is saying whatever to be right instead of honest

  • @Mikehawk68764
    @Mikehawk68764 13 дней назад

    Sorry Aaron but you took an L on this one

  • @user-og2wt3le4j
    @user-og2wt3le4j 13 дней назад

    The key word here is apostasy. Many practices of members that are deviant in the eyes of God are not called apostasy. There is also an issue was this deviant lifestyle something done before baptism? If a member of the church is inactive generally the stake presidents will tell bishops not to have a disciplinary council for the member.

  • @omaxman1
    @omaxman1 13 дней назад

    59:00

  • @jasonbonnell786
    @jasonbonnell786 14 дней назад

    I commend you for your patience, Aaron. As a former Mormon, I know how often the verse from the BOM “the spirit of contention is of the devil” was used in any type of heated discussion. It is a verse that is used constantly against people they disagree with, but when it comes to themselves, they do not apply the same amount of criticism.

  • @troyeverling
    @troyeverling 14 дней назад

    Aaron operated with great self control, love, peace, patience, long suffering….. this is an excellent example of how we must interact with people. His calm straight forward gracious disposition allowed for this exchange to continue in an informative, helpful manner for all who view this. This LDS man was striving to frustrate to overwhelm and overcome Aaron in discussion. Instead he magnified his own dishonesty and portrayed LDS views as discombobulated, irrational and indefensible. Sometime God orchestrates the conversation not so much for the one you’re speaking with, but rather for the audience who observes. Thanks for the Godly and seasoned example to the rest of us laboring in the fields of souls.

  • @happysword4076
    @happysword4076 14 дней назад

    I think the pastor won this debate. Though he mentioned too many times "you could be wrong", which is a moot point-- the pastor "can be wrong" too. Kwaku should have replied with the same question to make the point that both men are fallible.

  • @jacobmayberry1126
    @jacobmayberry1126 14 дней назад

    Aaron, I think you and Apologia probably posted this because you're banking on everyone seeing Travis as the deranged angry Mormon with no chill and you as calm, cool, and collected. But strip away the tone policing and Travis has some really good points and his criticisms of you are valid. Anyone who doesn't let Travis's abrasive personality get in the way of their brain will see that Travis made some very cogent points that you had trouble answering.

    • @AaronShafovaloff1
      @AaronShafovaloff1 14 дней назад

      Jacob, you’re of course welcome to give specifics of good arguments/points you thought were made.

    • @jacobmayberry1126
      @jacobmayberry1126 14 дней назад

      @@AaronShafovaloff1 no need to repeat that here. People can watch the video and judge for themselves. Have a good Sunday.

    • @josephkerr644
      @josephkerr644 14 дней назад

      And what are those points Jacob?

    • @AaronShafovaloff1
      @AaronShafovaloff1 14 дней назад

      Let me at least agree with you in principle here: it’s a good discipline to consider cogent points even when a speaker is abrasive. I have been there on the other side. In my second debate with Kwaku I became caustic.

    • @AaronShafovaloff1
      @AaronShafovaloff1 14 дней назад

      Jacob, I’d invite you to highlight even just one point. God bless.

  • @jhow0089
    @jhow0089 14 дней назад

    He was a surprise guest at a meeting I was invited to by some LDS missionaries. "Insolent" is possibly the softest word you could have used. I was not nearly as patient as you. Good job, brother.

    • @seanwhite75154
      @seanwhite75154 10 дней назад

      Me either when he was a surprise guest with my visit with missionaries. I was way less patient.

  • @slash903
    @slash903 14 дней назад

    I watched numerous discussions with Mormons and had several myself (with missionaries). Not one of them has ever denied Aaron's understanding of the King Follet Discourse. This guy is providing a novel approach to Mormon theology and acting like no one else truly understands the doctrine.

    • @glennjohn3919
      @glennjohn3919 7 дней назад

      I’m an ex Mormon and agree with this statement.

  • @1TruthMatters
    @1TruthMatters 14 дней назад

    Aaron understands classic LDS theology better than man it hat. Problem is LDS doctrine is shifting sand. Mormonism historically clearly taught in Priesthood and Sunday School manuals as part of the Law of Eternal Progression that the Father God was once a man, who progressed to become God. Man in hat either has never studied the LDS manuals of the 70’s and 80’s and doesnt understand historical LDS teachings, or simply disagrees with his own church historical doctrine. However, it’s my opinion that man in hat actually knows the LDS church taught such nonsense that God “progressed”, but denies it because he is embarrassed of the doctrine.

    • @scottm4975
      @scottm4975 14 дней назад

      Ya he clearly doesn’t. In the first 5 minutes he is trying to hold Lds to sola scriptura, which is definitely not a doctrine of the church. He’s missing the most basic pieces and trying to act like an authority

    • @Misa_Susaki
      @Misa_Susaki 14 дней назад

      I love God, and I love the Book of Mormon. Read it!

  • @chemnitzfan654
    @chemnitzfan654 14 дней назад

    Anderson is a functional atheist who maintains the charade of being a Mormon, but his god is his ego. He should take his "no one can know anything" routine on the road with Matt Dillahunty.

  • @yellowblackbird9000
    @yellowblackbird9000 14 дней назад

    The fact that Anderson tries to hide what he is teaching missionaries in his Facebook group shows that he has nefarious intentions. He seems to be trying to start a cult within a cult. Anderson's arguments defeat themselves. He just acts like no one can no anything but then belongs to a church that requires all kinds of extra-Biblical nonsense with prophets that can't keep their "revelation" straight.

  • @thermionic1234567
    @thermionic1234567 14 дней назад

    This man in the hat seems demon-possessed. You sir have the patience of a saint!

  • @thermionic1234567
    @thermionic1234567 14 дней назад

    Is there a point t where I can fast forward to do wherein Hat Man becomes less annoying? What a piece of work!

  • @seanwhite75154
    @seanwhite75154 14 дней назад

    Great work Aaron. He’s a piece of work

  • @BornAgainPlaylists
    @BornAgainPlaylists 14 дней назад

    Thank you, Aaron, for glorifying God with your profound patience, composure, and love.

  • @jaredwilliams1157
    @jaredwilliams1157 14 дней назад

    Jesus Christ the Son of God told Nicodemus. “Unless a man is born again, he cannot see the Kingdom of God” We were all once like this walking blindly in our own flesh. Travis cannot see nor can he hear. We know who is blinding him from the truth. Pray that he would be granted repentance unto salvation.

  • @RebelScumThis
    @RebelScumThis 14 дней назад

    I saw this on Aplogia Utah, thank you Aaron for being a good demonstration of love and patience for the lost. I struggled to watch this all the way through but I wanted to, to see how you demonstrated Christs patience with us. This is an area I need to grow in. Thank you brother 🙏

    • @BornAgainPlaylists
      @BornAgainPlaylists 14 дней назад

      I had the very same thoughts. He shows such patience and love.

    • @user-og2wt3le4j
      @user-og2wt3le4j 13 дней назад

      This guy does not represent LDS people in general. He is annoying for me to watch as a Mormon.

    • @devinhildebrandt2709
      @devinhildebrandt2709 10 дней назад

      He is more intelligent than most members and actually understands our theology.